3. The NFL Goes Back To The Well In terms of whether St. Louis will get another NFL team, an interesting fact is that, like Arnold Schwarzenegger in "The … Owner Shad Khan has invested about $100 million of his own money in stadium improvements in Jacksonville, and was critical of St. Louis after the vote to move the Rams. 2. Throughout the Patriots’ Deflategate episode, the league was exposed, even in court, for their misleading statements. They were not being truthful with us. It’s highly unlikely that Khan would move his team here, or that anyone will spend at least $2.5 billion to set up shop in STL. On March 15, 1988, the NFL team owners voted to allow Bidwill to move the Cardinals from St. Louis to Tempe, Arizona for the 1988 NFL season. In terms of whether St. Louis will get another NFL team, an interesting fact is that, like Arnold Schwarzenegger in "The Terminator," the league generally states it will be back. Or San Diego or Oakland. 35. And you know Phil Knight is ready to move to the big leagues anyway. Louis is a two time NFL loser - Cardinals and Rams. ST. LOUIS (KMOV.com) – Wednesday, the XFL announced St. Louis will officially be getting another professional sports team. The city of St. Louis’ continues lawsuit against the National Football League over its relocation of the Rams franchise to Los Angeles has requested depositions from over 40 NFL officials, according to Ben Frederickson of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. This subreddit is a forum dedicated to the NFL team the St. Louis Rams. I started out in the statistics department of Forbes in the mid-'80s then transitioned to. © 2021 Forbes Media LLC. City and county officials claim in a lawsuit that the Rams and the league negotiated in bad faith before leaving. We can come up with dozens of examples of NFL dishonesty. St. Louis NFL expansion franchise project. If the St. Louis task force can finalize the stadium funding in advance of the NFL's time frame for making a decision on relocation, Kroenke may not get his way. Through the Rams debacle, in an attempt to continue to be a major league city in perception, St. Louis looks like a minor league city in reality. Log In Sign Up. A long list of names – many being NFL owners – have been requested for depositions by the team of lawyers representing St. Louis in the breach of contract lawsuit. “It’s dishonest, and I don’t think it’s responsible to say that the game is safer. I know they’ve already lost two NFL teams but that makes … So St. Louis isn’t really missing it. Indeed, commissioner Roger Goodell has consistently claimed that the league would prefer to keep teams in their home markets. Short of one of those fairy tales, if the Raiders leave the best chance Oakland has of getting another NFL team just might be … waiting a few … by: Gregg Palermo. It's entirely possible that it may never be meant to be for St. Louis again. CUC's stock subsequently crashed and the CEO was convicted of fraud. The loss was a bitter one for St. Louis. As a result, St. Louis must pursue a more sustainable path, especially relative to governance reform. Despite this, the Rams started off … NFL teams were concerned about Namath's banged up knee, so he was still around when the St. Louis Cardinals made him the 12th player taken in the 1965 NFL draft — on Nov. 28, 1964. As we saw in San Diego, public votes for stadiums are tricky. I even wrote an Earnings Quality newsletter for Forbes for a brief period (I think it peaked at about 150 subscribers). © 2021 Hubbard Radio, YouTube Terms of Service | Google Privacy Policy, Why the NFL Will Never Return to St. Louis (And That’s Okay. The city is slated to get another major professional team with the arrival of a Major League Soccer expansion team to begin play in 2023. In a similar situation as what led the Bidwell's to move the Cardinals to Arizona after the 1987 season, Rams owner Stan Kronke could not come to terms with the city on a $780 million dollar renovation and had no interest in a proposed new billion … The 32 owners get a cut of all national league revenues, and they’re getting pretty much everything they can out of America. St. Louis mayor says city won’t pursue another NFL team. One of my favorite affairs is being a guest every few weeks on Larry Kudlow's radio show on WABC Saturday mornings. My most recent non-sports idea was Names You Need To Know, which broadened my concept of list creation to include direct input from our audience. Close. Public officials, both elected and nonelected, should be transparent and accountable, which helps prevent public servants form putting their private interests ahead of the public good. Do you have any idea … St. Louis requests depositions with 42 NFL figures, including Goodell, Kroenke, Demoff Posted by Curtis Crabtree on August 12, 2020, 2:05 AM EDT Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports That wouldn't necessarily be the case in the Los Angeles, though. The city is the birthplace of corkball. Despite the money and venue being offered by the city, Rams owner Stan Kroenke seems bound and determined to see his franchise moved back to Los Angeles. I’m mvoing to another state Where They HAve aN NFL Team Bring THe St. Louis Rams BAck TO St. Louis,Mo. These owners are making major investments, and want the value of their franchise to be as high as possible. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts . I started out in the statistics department of Forbes in the mid-'80s then transitioned to writing. And honestly the way the players are treating America (Land of the Free) because of their money and spiritual blindness, I hope they don’t get one. Archived. Log In Sign Up. But you barely mentioned St. Louis, which already has a stadium to get started. I also have a passion for economics (my MBA thesis at Long Island University was an empirical study on the cause of inflation in which regression analysis showed a significant correlation between the general level of prices and the money supply). Both Jacksonville and Baltimore later got NFL teams of their own (in Baltimore's case, it was a return of the NFL) when the Jaguars began play in 1995, and the Ravens started in 1996 respectively. Press J to jump to the feed. St. Louis has an extensive history in soccer, contributing at least one participant to each FIFA World Cup contested by the United States men's team. I think that’s just not true. The end of the 2015 NFL season also marked the end of another franchise in St.Louis with the Rams opting to return to Los Angeles. And as far as I’m concerned, once NFL owners rejected public money from St. Louis and Missouri, they told EVERY city “we don’t need public money. It just doesn’t seem like there’s a desire by voters in the USA to pay for a stadium owned by a billionaire. … 4 years ago. It’s not a good syndicate to do business with. (Photo by Otto Greule Jr/Getty Images). St. Louis might have soured on the NFL since Rams owner Stan Kroenke, with the help of the league, relocated his team to Los Angeles after 21 seasons here. ST. LOUIS -- St. Louis Rams defensive end Robert Quinn made this point two days before his team took down the Seattle Seahawks in overtime in both teams… But you barely mentioned St. Louis, which already has a stadium to get started. I think that there’s a lot of distrust and a lot of concern. If ANY public funds are going to be spent on sports facilities, it makes sense for the region to preserve what we have, as we tried to do with the Rams. The arguments against L.A. getting another shot at the NFL (which are immaterial since it’s going to happen) apply to St. Louis as well, plus StL has less economic playroom to support a team. Bettis all but disappeared from the offense, rushing for only 637 yards. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch just recently released a general overview of plans for a new "riverfront football stadium," replete with bridges, gardens and a brew pub, to be built in St. Louis. My latest creation was the "SportsMoney Index," which ranks the most valuable athletes, brands, teams and sports agencies based on a combination of their individual values, and value of the top athletes, brands, teams and agencies they do business with. In addition to the Rams, there are myriad examples of the league’s dishonesty. Brooks jettisoned Knox's run-oriented scheme in favor of a powerful air attack. 35. Besides being an Assistant Managing Editor at Forbes I also have a gig as co-host and Managing Editor of the four-time New York Emmy award winning Forbes SportsMoney on the YES Network and Fox Sports 1 with my buddies at YES, co-host Bob Lorenz and producer David Alfreds, both of whom have taught me a tremendous amount. There are many reasons. In St. Louis, it's looking like we won't have a nifty new football stadium on … Former Rams WR Torry Holt could get NFL ‘Hall Call’ this weekend News. No matter what outsiders say about their lack of support, the Rams were a major part of the culture in the city. Amid all the dismissive talk about San Diego’s dwindling chances of getting another NFL team, about the end of the league’s relocation era … Maybe if a new stadium is built using owner and NFL funds. St. Louis will never get another NFL team. With no expansion on the horizon and little likelihood of public funding of a stadium, St. Louis would need; A) someone with a franchise or with money to buy a franchise that can get out of their current stadium lease, and be willing to move the franchise, and B) that someone to have enough interest to build a stadium. With the one-year anniversary of the league ripping the Rams franchise from the region despite a viable stadium plan coming next week, the question of the NFL’s future here has been asked of me many times. Short of one of those fairy tales, if the Raiders leave the best chance Oakland has of getting another NFL team just might be … waiting a few years for things to go wrong in … St. Louis has moved on. So if any teams beyond the Chargers and Raiders DO move, that relocation is going to be to a spot like London, where the league can generate more revenue. Unfortunately for the NFL, they simply don’t have a consistently strong product right now, especially the 4-12 Rams. TMZ, however, did get one. And as Slay leaves office in 2017, there doesn’t appear to be traction for the NFL here. No matter what outsiders say about their lack of support, the Rams were a … SEATTLE, WA - DECEMBER 15: Quarterback Jared Goff #16 of the Los Angeles Rams is brought down by the... [+] Seattle Seahawks at CenturyLink Field on December 15, 2016 in Seattle, Washington. St. Louis not interested in another NFL team, Slay says. This subreddit is a forum dedicated to the NFL team the St. Louis Rams. (By the way, San Diego and Oakland never have come up with a stadium plan that matches the one St. Louis had). Relocation plans are important when it comes to the NFL. They say the third time’s the charm. By Jacob Kirn and Brian Feldt – St. Louis Business Journal . St. Louis will never get another NFL team. After all, they have to draw the new-age fans away from their 4K 55-inch TVs with surround sound and get them into the stadium. User account menu. St. Louis mayor says city won’t pursue another NFL team. The last time St. Louis lost an NFL franchise, it took eight years to get another one back. Yes, it is possible for St. Louis to get another NFL at some point in the future, but only if the city is willing to build a new stadium. You may opt-out by, Traffic cop at the intersection of money and sports, Seattle Seahawks at CenturyLink Field on December 15, 2016 in Seattle, Washington. There is no public appetite to vote for stadiums these days. It’s not about fans or cities, it’s about money. While the Rams, particularly owner Stan Kroenke, and the NFL did not engage in good faith negotiations with St. Louis, St. Louis did not engage in good faith negotiations with its citizens. St,. And the answer I always give is, no chance. That means upgrading Scottrade Center so that the Blues, a franchise truly committed to St. Louis, can continue to thrive, and so that the NCAA will continue to deliver big events that the St. Louis Sports Commission gets. In St. Louis, and pretty much every NFL city, if the team is good, then people are going to go to the games and support them. That means the league would need to add four teams. At his Super Bowl 50 press conference, weeks after the league voted 30-2 for a Rams move, Goodell said “I spoke to the Governor a couple of days after the Houston meetings (that allowed the relocation) and I told him ‘when things settle down and you’re prepared, let’s talk about the future of NFL football in St. Louis.’”, Goodell went on to say “if there’s something that can be worked out, that we could develop a stadium that would allow a team to be successful there, that’s something that we should consider. A stadium is going to cost at least $1 billion, and a team is going to cost $1.5 billion. It … Here are just a few. Portland. Though the NFL publicly dismissed the suit, it has become a worrisome headache for the league and its owners as St. Louis lawyers have kept it … In public-private partnerships, the devil is in the details. But the city went after another NFL team with zeal. St. Louis fans are without an NFL team again. The only logical move for the NFL is to move to 36 teams for the symmetry of having six divisions of six teams each. After two decades without a team in the nation’s second-largest media market, NFL owners voted Tuesday to move the St. Louis Rams back to Los Angeles, the city they called home for nearly 50 years. This page is dedicated to getting the NFL to realize that St.Louis deserves better and should receive an expansion team … My mentors were James Walker Michaels, Geoffrey N. Smith and William Baldwin. The next city to get an NFL team should be Bismarck, North Dakota—a central location representing states without NFL teams, such as Montana, Wyoming and both Dakotas. Dave Peacock and the region’s private leadership are invested in bringing MLS to St. Louis and upgrading Scottrade Center. They don’t want to split it 34 ways. The end of the 2015 NFL season also marked the end of another franchise in St.Louis with the Rams opting to return to Los Angeles. The fact is, San Diego and Oakland did not have a plan for a new stadium. City and county officials claim in a lawsuit that the Rams and the league negotiated in bad faith before leaving. That’s why the pro sports business model works so well. That means the league would need to add four teams. The only logical move for the NFL is to move to 36 teams for the symmetry of having six divisions of six teams each. That’s not accurate.” Borland told CSN. Close. They also say three strikes and you’re out. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts . We have great, committed franchises and ownerships in the Blues and the Cardinals, and they provide a great product that covers all twelve months of the year. User account menu. The Jaguars’ lease that runs through 2030, as an example, requires about $100 million to get out of. I know they’ve already lost two NFL teams but that makes the fan base all the more hungry and deserving. I mean, literally we put a great deal on the table, and it’s clear as you look back on it that they were really bent on leaving, and were not really exceptionally concerned about the fans and the people of this market which I think are great. We will never get another NFL team,and that’s really a shame. San Diego may possibly but I would like to hear from someone in San Diego and how they feel. ST. LOUIS … In an interview with CSN Bay Area, former 49ers linebacker Chris Borland, who retired after one year in the league, responded to an interview of Goodell with Charlie Rose, where Goodell said the NFL has never been more exciting and competitive, and has never been safer. Jerry Jones built a $1.6 billion stadium, and Arthur Blank is financing a palace in Atlanta. St. Louis has lost two NFL teams. (Photo by Otto Greule Jr/Getty Images), Impact 50: Investors Seeking Profit — And Pushing For Change, Super Bowl 2021: With Tom Brady Taking On Patrick Mahomes, NFL Ends Season On Highest Possible Note, Back To The Future? Here's a history lesson coupled with some analysis, recently put forth by Eric Click, Ph.D., on why St. Louis lost the Rams (again) and may not (my take away) get another NFL team … Many former fans here say the NFL is dead to them. In addition to Slay, Governor Jay Nixon was ready to unilaterally provide state funding for an NFL stadium. Mayor Francis Slay: St. Louis is not interested in another NFL team. Larry has been a great mentor and friend. The NFL is not an entity that can be trusted. Or the one that ended their hopes of a dynasty in the early 2000's? I say we give St. Louis another NFL team and see which saying is true. There’s no appetite that I have to take another run at an NFL team.” If you were a politician and saw how Slay got burned, would you engage them? With both the Cardinals and Rams franchises, the city and surrounding areas have shown the same passion and enthusiasm equal to city's other professional sports teams even through some of the more lackluster seasons. At this point, it simply doesn’t make sense for the NFL to be a priority. Right now, it appears likely that the Rams will move back to L.A. to play in a brand spanking new stadium built by their owner. Instead, they move heaven and earth to keep the team — even if, as in the case of St. Louis, they can’t afford it. For new stadiums in Santa Clara, Minneapolis, Atlanta and Las Vegas, the public wasn’t given a voice on funding. Yet when given the opportunity to relocate two franchises…by keeping the Chargers and Raiders in California…they are going to abandon three markets, with the Rams leaving St. Louis and, presumably the Chargers bolting San Diego and moving to Los Angeles, and the Raiders departing Oakland for Las Vegas. I doubt they will get another one. Click's Upshot: "Opposed to the locally established St. Louis Cardinals (MLB) and St. Louis Blues (NHL), St. Louis has twice tried and twice failed to rent-to-own an NFL team. What they did to us was disgusting,and it soured St Louisans on football and sports in … Those cities had the best case to make for a move to Los Angeles but the corruptness of the NFL reigned supreme and St. Louis was robbed of their team. Posted: Feb 3, 2021 / 03:52 PM CST / Updated: Feb 3, 2021 / 03:52 PM CST. Posted by. But Terry and Kim Pegula had to pay $1.4 billion for the Buffalo Bills. It’s hard to imagine the state government, or any politician, will want anything to do with an NFL stadium in the future. NFL fans are fuming, just like they have been in St. Louis, where the Rams played for 21 years before leaving last year for L.A. On Monday, the NFL also approved a … Further, the Rams saga serves as a cautionary tale to governments throughout the United States, particularly in corporate welfare and infrastructure (private) versus social welfare and infrastructure (public). St. Louis. The NFL’s opulent Park Avenue offices were described by themselves as “non-profit” until 2015, and so the league office didn’t pay taxes. Posted by 5 years ago. ST. LOUIS, MO (KTVI)- As the calendar turns toward July, and training camps get set to open, we’re about to get another heavy dose of reminders that St. Louis is no longer home to an NFL … Obviously, the league consistently told Nixon and his task force to keep doing what they were doing in planning a stadium, even though it was a fate accompli that the Rams would leave. Jan 13, 2016 Updated Jan 13, … The NFL is not going to expand. Any logical rationale used to dismiss those questions changed the minute the NFL endorsed Kroenke's plan to bolt St. Louis for Inglewood, Calif., where he … Doug Gottlieb discusses the likelihood of St. Louis getting an NFL team again. That’s before any relocation fees and litigation. It’s disappointing, but it seemed to be more about the money than the sport to them.”. 19. With the Raiders moving out of Oakland into Las Vegas, it seems like the game of musical … Stan Kroenke, Jerry Jones, and the NFL really cheated us out of a team that we supported much better than Los angeles ever did. Those leagues have younger demographics that perhaps better mirrors St. Louis’ status as one of America’s top business startup cities. Nixon’s successor, Governor Elect Eric Greitens, has gone on record as saying he’s against an MLS stadium in St. Louis if any public funds are required. We can build on our own.” Indeed, the Rams are funding their stadium in Inglewood, and the Falcons, Giants and Jets, Patriots and Lions all have absorbed at least 75% of stadium costs. "There will be life without the Rams here in St. Louis, I can assure you that," Slay said, adding he has "no appetite" for seeking another NFL team because of … In terms of whether St. Louis will get another NFL team, an interesting fact is that, like Arnold Schwarzenegger in "The Terminator," the league generally states it will be back. After the outpouring of support … The league will remain at 32 teams, probably for as long as any of us live. “I mean, it was dishonest. Example: my story on CUC International pointed out how the company's aggressive accounting was masking a cash-flow problem. In a move that potentially frees up the Rams to … Slay pointed out to the NFL that he had never met Rams owner Stan Kroenke, despite the fact that Kroenke was a part owner and majority owner in St. Louis for 21 years. In 1987, St. Louis’ NFL team, the Cardinals, skipped town abruptly. “Why would anybody want to, in any way, even entertain any suggestions from the NFL after the way they dealt with St. Louis here?” Slay asked. After the move, Slay said the NFL’s “home cities and hometown fans are commodities to be abandoned once they no longer suit the league’s purposes.”. I mainly wrote about high-priced stocks that I believed were doomed. St. Louis Mayor Francis Slay On If The City Will Be Looking To Add Another NFL Franchise In The Future It’s a very sensitive time in the St. Louis area, which is totally understandable. The team that left them? You don't complain that there's no NFL team; you hit the bike paths. They’d scoff at that. All Rights Reserved, This is a BETA experience. These days I like to take lots and lots of numbers and turn them into proprietary concepts and multi-platform content. 19. The laws here call for public votes on any tax supported sports facilities. And I told him that.”, When asked if he had spoken to Goodell since that statement when he joined us in The Fast Lane last week, Nixon said “we’ve not had any substantive follow-ups from that. My CUC story is the focus of a chapter in the 2004 book: Forbes Greatest Investing Stories (John Wiley & Sons) by Richard Phalon. St. Louis fans are without an NFL team again. ). However, St. Louis persuaded them to stay with the promise of a stadium—what would become Busch Memorial Stadium (a new expansion team, the Falcons of the NFL, was eventually created for Atlanta and began play in 1966, and a different St. Louis team would move to Atlanta—the NBA Hawks in 1968). That means new stadiums are needed, which means relocation is always a possibility. The next city to get an NFL team should be Bismarck, North Dakota—a central location representing states without NFL teams, such as Montana, Wyoming and both Dakotas. St. Louis Mayor Francis Slay On If The City Will Be Looking To Add Another NFL Franchise In The Future It’s a very sensitive time in the St. Louis area, which is totally understandable. The players themselves on the field, they know. ", My mentors were James Walker Michaels, Geoffrey N. Smith and William Baldwin. My brother in arms is Kurt Badenhausen, whom I have worked with for many years and knows more about sports numbers than anyone. Though the NFL publicly dismissed the suit, it has become a worrisome headache for the league and its owners as St. Louis lawyers have kept it from going to arbitration, according to the report. Any logical rationale used to dismiss those questions changed the minute the NFL endorsed Kroenke's plan to bolt St. Louis for Inglewood, Calif., where he will build a $1.86 billion stadium. Portland has a rabid fanbase that supports both the Blazers and Timbers well, so they’ve earned their shot at the NFL. The team played its first several games in St. Louis at Busch Stadium (the home of the NFL's St. Louis Cardinals from 1966 until 1987) as work finished on their new home, the Trans World Dome. Every owner that buys a franchise is going to spend at least $1.4 billion. The Rams, long rumored to be eyeing a move back to Hollywood, may get a chance to break its lease in St. Louis next year. With the one-year anniversary of the league ripping the Rams franchise from the region despite a viable stadium plan coming next week, the question of the NFL’s future here has been asked of me many times. Kroenke got an amazing deal, investing about $500 million in a property that is now worth north of $3 billion. That’s just not available in St. Louis. The actions of the league speak louder than their words. The St. Louis-London Connection. Here's a history lesson coupled with some analysis, recently put forth by Eric Click, Ph.D., on why St. Louis lost the Rams (again) and may not (my take away) get another NFL team for a long, long time. Their handling of the concussion issues of their own players has been abominable. Press J to jump to the feed. The league said it requested a Ray Rice elevator video after his domestic abuse of his then fiancé, but that it wasn’t available to them. You can say St. Louis is such a baseball town that they can’t support an NFL team with both the Cardinals and Rams having fled the city. More: Three NFL Head Coaches Rumored to Be Vying for the Rams Job, This web site is not intended for users located within the European Economic Area. Lots of political capital was expended to keep the Rams here. The Cardinals got off to a good start, and tied the Cleveland Browns … Who are the people of St. Louis rooting for in the Super Bowl? They aren’t going to expand to London, or Mexico City or Toronto. And the answer I always give is, no chance. We aren’t getting another team, but with what the NFL is and what we have, St. Louis is, and is going to be, just fine. St. Louis Mayor Francis Slay cashed in numerous chips to get the city’s Board of Aldermen to vote for St. Louis’ portion of the funding for a stadium. The 29-page document obtained Tuesday by The Times lays out the team’s rationale for why it should be able to leave St. Louis and how it believes such a move would ultimately strengthen the NFL. These guys are happy with the club they have. 754 likes. The last city that lost an NFL team and never got one another one was Portsmouth, Ohio, in 1934. 1. 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